Earth Day 2013: Waiting to Get Fracked

By: Angela Fritz , 5:25 AM GMT on April 22, 2013

By Skyepony, Weather Underground Community member

A note from Angela:
"Fracking," or hydraulic fracturing, is the process of fracturing layers of rocks beneath the surface of the earth, using water and other chemicals and fluids, for the purpose of extracting natural gas that would otherwise be impossible to drill. For Earth Day, I wanted to surface the experience of one of our long-time true-blue Weather Underground community members. Skyepony has seen the front lines of the fracking industry from her family's tree farm in Mississippi, and she urges you to learn more about the fracking process and what it does to our environment, our health, and our families on this Earth Day.

This all started last spring when my family got together for a trip to check on the tree farm in southern Mississippi and to visit with relatives. En route to my uncle's farm, we gathered at a seafood restaurant and walked into an unexpected scene. A group of neighbors had gathered to join us, and boy, did they have news.

The oil companies were coming back.

Our neighbors told us the oil companies could recover the resources we all knew were lurking beneath the surface of the farm. They told us they could make our "dry holes" pay, which were drilled and capped back in the 1950s-1970s. Our neighbors and distant cousins were on a mission, and you could feel their intensity. This was a group of people who watch over the tree farm, and our family cemetery, every day. The neighbors and family who actually live there were bearing down for confirmation that we, too, would sign on the dotted line. If that happened, we could all cash in.

A WunderPhoto of the tree farm in southwest Mississippi. Almost 7 years after Katrina the damage can still be seen. This was the 3rd of the farm where the trees were destroyed by a tornado during the storm & then replanted.

The group needed to convince a fairly large percentage of us in a 16 square mile block in order for it to happen. They assumed they had convinced as many people as they needed. They knew they could roll us over either way, but wanted us to cash in with them. They frequently invoked our long-dead Great-Grandaddy who had insisted we hold the mineral rights until the day the oil companies came back, because that was all the land was ever going to be worth.

We nodded and expressed interest in looking into it, trying to hide our shock.

I did some research. What I found was that in 2011, Devon Energy and Encana, two North American oil and natural gas producers, began fracking the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale (TMS). According to the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources, TMS is sedimentary rock that is rich with organic material, which was deposited 90 million years ago when the area was marine. The counties in Mississippi that were being considered for the fracking venture were Wilkinson, Amite, Adams, Pike, Walthall, and Franklin. The TMS "play," or potential petroleum-bearing area, is an unproven 7 billion barrel oil reserve that runs through central Louisiana and southwest Mississippi for a total of 2.7 million acres. It's potentially enough oil to supply the United States for a year (if they can extract all of it).

The location of the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale (TMS) play, according to the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources.

Some of this area was originally tapped and did produce oil, though many were dry holes, like what we had on the farm. However, now people were being told that this land could produce, through the magic of fracking. Hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," is where pressurized fluids of unknown origin are pushed deep into the earth with the intent of fracturing the sediments, which releases the otherwise undrillable fossil fuel. Fracking consumes 2.5 times the amount of energy, water, and effort of a traditional oil well, and though it produces up to 3 times the resources, the quality of oil and gas that's extracted is debatable. The TMS is known for containing both oil and liquid gas, which is more desirable to the industry than the dry, natural gas, which is typically sold at a much cheaper price.

Mississippi has been more than willing to invite fracking into the state, without consideration of where the 1 million gallons of water each well uses will come from, what the chemicals are that are being added, or the common practice of deep-injection disposal of the dirty water after it's been used. Two bills are currently in consideration to give sizable tax breaks to the oil companies involved in southwest Mississippi fracking. Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant announced that natural gas was a top priority in the new statewide energy policy. It is part of the T. Boone Pickens plan to run vehicles off natural gas. Natural gas stations could be opening across Mississippi by 2014. Exporting the resource out of Louisiana to the global market is also a hot topic.

The individual communities and counties pulled together and started discussing the potential impact on roads, and considered the angry people that didn't have mineral rights to cash in on. Discussions ranged from where they could draw water, to where money for road improvements would come from, to increasing law enforcement. They are even trying to secure state money for another chancery judge since there will certainly be more lawsuits.

Meanwhile, the oil companies have done their homework. Encana owns 310,000 acres on the TMS, Devon has 250,000 acres, Indigo II Louisiana Operating has around 240,000 acres, Amelia Resources has 110,000 acres, and Goodrich Petroleum owns approximately 74,000. Some of this property was was bought for as low as $175 an acre in the recent real estate depression. They appear to concentrate on both acquiring mineral rights and fresh water rights, along with finding available surface water to be drained, spoiled with fracking chemicals, and then hauled off to be injected into deep waste water wells. We know someone who had married into the family— this is how he made millions in Louisiana and Texas. He has a small drilling business, though deals mostly with land and mineral rights. He buys cheap land with the rights, drills it, and flips it. The trend is changing to "frack it and flip it." Any property for sale on the TMS is fair game.

I originally thought the tree farm would be safe, but that isn't the case. Six generations ago, William, my great, great, great, great-granddaddy, fought in the War of 1812. He was probably granted this land for his time spent defending Charleston, South Carolina. The original piece was large—large enough that today, if it was intact, it could hold out to fracking. Unfortunately three generations passed and the property was divided amongst the children. Some of it was sold to pay taxes. In the following generation, Great-Grandaddy worked hard to buy that portion back and was successful. That piece was divided several more times, so that now, many of my immediate family hold rights and have a say in what happens to our small portion. The segments of the farm are owned by close and distant kin, and some of them are people who managed to buy their way onto the property.

Though as much as I think fracking is horrible, my hands are tied. The decision is not mine. Even if it was, the land around the farm would be so heavily fracked that it would be impossible to protect it from the environmental consequences. Our farm's story is not exception—most of the land around the farm has been divided, inherited, or sold until 20 to few hundred acre-size tracts are common. Fortunately for us, the oil companies have drawn back the circus in our area, for the time being. I'm now hearing it is going to be 2 years before they are ready to drill in the farm's county. The companies are focusing more on the counties that are deeper in the play and have shown higher yields in the past. That buys a little more time for the farm before the frackers show, and perhaps a chance to change its fate. I'm glad I didn't decide to settle my life there.

The entire experience has shifted the way I see what needs to be done in order to stop the fracking industry. Convincing land owners will do nothing. They, like the land owners in the way of the Keystone XL pipeline, will most likely be compensated financially, but they won't be able to stop it. Until I approached this issue as a mineral rights owner, I never noticed how much the oil companies were "flipping" land, or how you need to own so many square miles to be able to stop them from using your neighbors against you. Politically, the regional government comprises well-to-do land owners that appear to want to cash off the land in any way possible. They are opening their doors and turning their heads. Local politicians in other areas have been successful in fending off the fracking companies, but not in southern Mississippi. Perhaps the answer for my farm is to concentrate on the federal laws that are treating the fracking industry unconventionally, letting them slide while they inject undisclosed chemicals into the ground, wasting billions of gallons of water, and releasing pollution into the air that other industries, including coal and conventional oil, couldn't get away with.

The Environmental Protection Agency is currently working on the first federal environmental study on fracking. Results are due in 2014. Waiting on these results before allowing fracking has become a strategy in some local efforts across the nation.

Local anti-fracking efforts across the United States, their moratoriums and petitions to sign can be found here. Another wealth of information is a report the fracking industry had done on itself noting the effective grassroots efforts. It recommended giving in to all demands of the local movements, or risk being banned from fracking altogether. They also suggest making it more profitable to the land owners—directly pay all claims of loss, ruined land, and water. Pay anything not to go to court. Buy silence.

So on this Earth Day, instead of being silent, I urge you to learn more about fracking and talk to others about it.

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

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160. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
5:06 PM GMT on September 27, 2013
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159. Skyepony (Mod)
1:27 AM GMT on September 27, 2013
Fracking Victims Demand EPA Reopen Investigations Into Poisoned Drinking Water

Americans Against Fracking Stop the Frack Attack

Residents personally harmed by gas drilling and fracking held a press conference in front of the White House yesterday and delivered 250,000 petition signatures from concerned citizens across the U.S. to Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Gina McCarthy at EPA headquarters. The residents—including Ray Kemble from Pennsylvania, Steve Lipsky and Shelly Perdue from Texas and John Fenton from Wyoming—were all part of the EPA fracking investigations in their respective states that the EPA abandoned despite evidence of water contamination. More here..
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158. whitewabit
8:03 PM GMT on September 25, 2013
Human role in warming 'more certain' - UN climate chief
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157. whitewabit
8:02 PM GMT on September 25, 2013
(Reuters) - The world suffered unprecedented climate extremes in the decade to 2010, from heatwaves in Europe and droughts in Australia to floods in Pakistan, against a backdrop of global warming, a United Nations report said on Wednesday.Link
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156. JohnLonergan
6:03 PM GMT on September 22, 2013
Crude oil in Lac-Mégantic derailment was mislabelled, Transportation Safety Board says

MONTREAL — The crude oil in the runaway train that derailed in Lac-Mégantic was improperly identified as less hazardous and flammable than it actually was, Canada's Transportation Safety Board has announced.

Petroleum crude oil is categorized as a Class 3 Dangerous Good, and can be divided into three packing groups, depending on the level of safety hazard.

The oil on the Lac-Mégantic train was identified for transportation from North Dakota as Packing Group III, the least hazardous in that class, the TSB said Wednesday.

But tests the federal agency did on samples of oil taken from the train found it actually had the characteristics of a PG II product, said TSB chief investigator Donald Ross. Products in PG II have a lower flashpoint — the temperature at which vapours ignite — than products in PG III.

The lower flashpoint partly explains why the oil ignited so quickly in Lac-Mégantic, the TSB said. Oil categorized as PG III doesn't usually ignite, Ross said.

It would have been up to Irving Oil, the company importing the oil to Canada, to ensure it was correctly identified, Ross said.

"It's important that dangerous goods in transport be properly described," Ross said. "There are people that may have to handle that, come into contact with that, and they need to know the hazards they are dealing with."

The July 6 derailment killed 47 people and spilled an estimated 5.6 million litres of crude oil. The cost of cleaning up the town, lake and Chaudière River is expected to be more than $200 million.

The train was operated by the Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway. Ross said tests done on samples of crude oil taken from a second MMA oil train parked in Farnham showed it was also incorrectly identified.

The TSB sent safety advisory letters to Transport Canada and the U.S. Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration Wednesday suggesting they review the processes for suppliers and companies transporting dangerous goods to make sure they are "accurately determined and documented for safe transportation."

This is the third safety advisory letter the agency has published since the accident. The first two asked Transport Canada to review regulations requiring trains to be properly secured and that trains carrying dangerous goods are not left unattended.

Federal Transport Minister Lisa Raitt said in a statement Wednesday that she has instructed her department to examine the TSB recommendation as quickly as possible.

"If a company does not properly classify its goods, they can be prosecuted under the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act," Raitt said.

In an statement emailed to The Gazette Wednesday, an Irving Oil spokesperson said the company continues to "offer our full support to authorities as this tragedy is investigated." The company has no further comment, the statement said.

Federal NDP transportation critic Olivia Chow said the federal government should order spot checks and safety inspections to ensure the proper labelling of dangerous goods.

Ross said it is too early to say whether the improper classification would have changed the outcome of the Lac-Mégantic disaster.

"It's a possibility that it had no effect, but I'm not there yet," Ross said, adding that the investigation is ongoing.

Under existing regulations, even if the oil had been classified properly, it wouldn't have changed how it was transported, or what kind and how many tanker cars were used, TSB investigator Ed Belkaloul said.

The TSB said the incorrect identification of the oil raises questions about the use of DOT-111 train cars to transport large quantities of flammable liquids with lower flashpoints. Both the TSB and U.S. National Transportation Safety Board have recommended improvements to DOT-111 cars, which have punctured during accidents.

According to the Railway Association of Canada, DOT-111 tanker cars produced since October 2011 to carry crude oil and ethanol have the improved safety features the regulatory agencies have suggested.

The TSB investigation will look at how the tanker cars performed in the accident, as well as the composition of the crude oil they carried, Ross said.

The TSB findings show there are serious gaps in the regulation of shipping oil by rail, Greenpeace Canada said Wednesday. The group has been calling for a ban on shipping oil in older DOT-111 tanker cars.

"We need the federal government to focus more on protecting our communities and our environment, and less on keeping transportation costs low for oil companies," spokesperson Patrick Bonin said.

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155. zampaz
5:19 AM GMT on September 21, 2013
Hi Skyepony!
The first link to RM's blog should be #53047723
Thanks for your post (back to lurking)

Quoting 154. Skyepony:

Oil, gas facilities a concern after CO floods
Miriam Rotkin-Ellman, a scientist at the Natural Resources Defense Council, talks with Rachel Maddow about concerns over environmental damages caused by the oil and gas facilities in Colorado that were damaged by the deadly, unprecedented flooding across the Front Range.

More spills were revealed
Friday in a Colorado oil field swamped by floodwaters as cleanup efforts remained stalled due to high waters and regulators cautioned that more oil releases were likely to be found in coming days.

The latest spills include 2,400 gallons of oil spilled from a group of storage tanks, about 900 gallons from an oil tank that floated away and at least two others from damaged storage tanks that involved unknown volumes.

That brings the known volume of oil released since massive flooding began last week along Colorado's Front Range to at least an estimated 22,060 gallons. That's about 525 barrels.
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154. Skyepony (Mod)
3:43 AM GMT on September 21, 2013

Oil, gas facilities a concern after CO floods
Miriam Rotkin-Ellman, a scientist at the Natural Resources Defense Council, talks with Rachel Maddow about concerns over environmental damages caused by the oil and gas facilities in Colorado that were damaged by the deadly, unprecedented flooding across the Front Range.

More spills were revealed
Friday in a Colorado oil field swamped by floodwaters as cleanup efforts remained stalled due to high waters and regulators cautioned that more oil releases were likely to be found in coming days.

The latest spills include 2,400 gallons of oil spilled from a group of storage tanks, about 900 gallons from an oil tank that floated away and at least two others from damaged storage tanks that involved unknown volumes.

That brings the known volume of oil released since massive flooding began last week along Colorado's Front Range to at least an estimated 22,060 gallons. That's about 525 barrels.
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153. Hhunter
2:52 PM GMT on September 14, 2013
Your not a liberal are you? LOL
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152. whitewabit
6:08 PM GMT on August 30, 2013
Huge canyon discovered under Greenland ice
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151. JohnLonergan
10:49 PM GMT on August 25, 2013
The Deadly Truth About Oil And Gas Industry Safety Standards

A new report delivers a dire warning to employees in the oil and gas industries: Your job could be the death of you. According to recently released statistics from 2012, on the job deaths in the oil and gas industries spiked by a staggering 23% last year, a larger increase than any other employment sector in the United States.

U.S. Labor Secretary Thomas Perez said that the amount of deaths within the industry was “unacceptable.” In 2012, according to labor statistics, there were 138 on the job deaths in the oil and gas industry, which is an increase from the 112 deaths that occurred in the prior year. This is a stark contrast to all industries, as the total number of worker deaths across the board decreased last year.

The trend in oil and gas industry deaths is nothing new. Between 2003 and 2010, the industry had the highest death toll in the United States, beating out all other industries for worker deaths. The majority of these deaths are due to workers being struck by equipment, struck by vehicles, and occasionally a major catastrophic accident, like the BP refinery explosion in Texas in 2005, and the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion in 2010.

In the case of industrial accidents, many companies have actually done cost analyses and determined that it is actually cheaper for them to pay off the families of killed workers than it is to implement new safety standards. For example, BP’s 2005 refinery explosion uncovered documents that showed exactly how the company does their cost analysis, and determined that the implementation of safety precautions would cut too deeply into the company’s profits.

Your "free market" at its finest.
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150. zampaz
6:28 PM GMT on August 21, 2013
From the EPA:
The Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing on Drinking Water Resources: Progress Report (December 2012)

Here's a link to the pdf: nts/hf-report20121214.pdf

Most of us are aware that fracking wells are given exemptions from conformance to the Clean Water Drinking Act, and similar air quality law.
Most are not aware that Fracking chemicals/mixtures are protected as trade secrets and the formulas for these mixtures have to be carefully reverse engineered...then the specific results have to be obfuscated to prevent disclosure of the "secret mixtures."

Water well testing and fresh drinking water tests have been going on for many years. What's taking so long to report the results?
Well, part of the answer lies in the very complex administrative review process the reports have to go through. Note that I said administrative review process -not scientific peer review...although there is plenty of that too...
Congress, wants a "fair" review process...fair to industry anyway.
In reading the report (I'm only 50 pages in so far) the first thing that struck me was the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Executive summary:

"Responsible development of America’s oil and gas resources offers important economic, energy
security, and environmental benefits.
Which I read as:
"Responsible development of America’s oil and gas resources offers important environmental benefits."

Natural gas produced in North America will be exported as the demand is global, so are the markets and so is the industry.

We're past peak fossil energy production. The easy crude and gas has already been exploited.

Every joule of energy extracted is now much more expensive to produce. In nature there is no such thing as money that our civilization uses as a means of barter. But in reality what civilization actually uses is energy. Energy drives the economy.

I suppose as energy production cost goes up the value of money goes down. Most people in America have to drive to work or to a store to buy food. We know adding carbon taxes as an incentive to conserve precious oil does nothing to move us towards sustainable energy.
What's at stake, the survival of our species, is transparent.
The House, Senate, and Administration have been populated by Larry, Curly and Moe to keep us distracted so that business can continue as usual.
It's amusing and sad.

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149. Lojikbom
7:19 PM GMT on August 14, 2013
Quoting 102. Skyepony:

This is the most one sided version I have seen on this issue.

How ironic; I was thinking the same thing about your blog post. The EPA seems to have a different opinion of fracking, based on it's preliminary report.

EPA Report Gives Pro-Fracking Camp a Win
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148. Skyepony (Mod)
6:09 PM GMT on July 31, 2013
Here is about the alternative flaring. At 1:34 there is awesome tornado caused by the flaring.

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147. Skyepony (Mod)
3:27 PM GMT on July 31, 2013
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146. Skyepony (Mod)
2:10 PM GMT on July 30, 2013
The anti-frackers are still getting carted off left & right.. Beware of this new ear twisting tactic..

Police officers try to break a human chain formed by anti-fracking protesters at Balcombe. Photograph: Tony Kershaw/Rex Features

Sussex police have made 14 arrests at an oil drilling site near the village of Balcombe after local people and anti-fracking activists attempted to block the delivery of machinery for a second day using a human chain and tree trunks.

Activists said police removed people who had blockaded the gates to the rural West Sussex site where the energy company Cuadrilla, headed by the former BP chief Lord Browne, intends to start test drilling for oil next week.

Sussex police said five people were arrested for causing danger to road users, and nine under trade union law for attempting to stop drivers and other workers from accessing the site. Police said the arrests were peaceful, but activists said there were struggles.

move along.. nothing to see.. we aren't here to harm or poison you...

Ashley Williams, who witnessed the arrests, said: "This is a totally disproportionate response. The community are standing up for themselves against a company that is trying to poison them. As soon as regular people put their head above the parapet the state jumps in to defend the interests of a wealthy few."
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145. leftlink
8:38 AM GMT on July 28, 2013
Someone brought up Germany... I googled their energy use and found some a really interesting and useful report. Seems like Wind is the big energy producer, and Solar is not still huge as a percentage of production except during the peak months (march-september) when the power is needed during the day for A/C. So it might be only 5% overall but 15% during the sunny part of the day in the summer. h/pdf-files-englisch/news/electricity-production-f rom-solar-and-wind-in-germany-in-2013.pdf

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144. BaltimoreBrian
4:05 AM GMT on July 27, 2013
George Mitchell, a Pioneer in Hydraulic Fracturing, Dies at 94
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143. zampaz
6:36 PM GMT on July 24, 2013
Gasland Part 2 (2012)
Synopsis from IMDB
A documentary that declares the gas industry's portrayal of natural gas as a clean and safe alternative to oil is a myth, and that fracked wells inevitably leak over time, contaminating water and air, hurting families, and endangering the earth's climate with the potent greenhouse gas, and methane.

IMDB Info Link


I just finished watching this video.
The conclusion breaks my heart.
Not so much for the loss of the environment,
but for the loss of democracy in America.
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142. Skyepony (Mod)
4:12 PM GMT on July 23, 2013
wab~ Here's more on that with the ongoing situation in Indonesia.

Unusual geological event in Indonesia on Tuesday, 23 July, 2013 at 03:19 (03:19 AM) UTC.
Scientists have sparked a fresh debate over what triggered Indonesia's Lusi mud volcano, still spewing truckloads of slime more than seven years after it leapt catastrophically into life. Published in the journal Nature Geoscience, the study strengthens the argument by gas company PT Lapindo Brantas that the disaster was caused by a distant earthquake, not by its drilling crew as some experts contend. Lusi, located in the Sidoarjo district of the island of Java, erupted on May 29, 2006 in the middle of a rice field. It has destroyed 13 villages, dozens of factories and shops and a highway, prompting the government to build dykes 10 metres high to try to contain its spread. Nearly 50,000 people were displaced. The new research, by a team led by Stephen Miller at the University of Bonn in Germany, suggests the eruption was caused by the 6.3-magnitude earthquake that occurred two days earlier near Yogyakarta. Even though the two events were 250 kilometres apart, the rock formation at Sidoarjo has a shape and structure that acted rather like a lens, amplifying and focusing the wave of seismic energy from Yogyakarta, according to their computer model.

The jolt of energy would have liquefied the source of the mud, causing it to be injected into a fault connected with a deep hydrothermal system. This superheated blowout feeds the eruption today, goes their theory. Asked to comment on the study, British geologist Richard Davies pointed to the daily drilling reports from the Lapindo Brantas team at Sidoarjo. It showed their gas exploration was going awry, Davies said. On the day of the eruption, the drillers acknowledged that they were having problems in stabilising pressure in the hole, a routine procedure that uses injected fluids, as they sought to withdrew their drill bit, he said. That, and the lack of protective casing around the hole, "was like pulling the cork out of a champagne bottle," causing a "kick" of high-pressure mud to blow from the hole, Davies, a professor at Durham University, told AFP in a phone interview. "When the Yogyakarta earthquake occurred, nothing happened in the well. The pressure in the well was already many orders of magnitude bigger than the pressure changes due to the Yogyakarta earthquake," Davies.

"They've come up with an elaborate geophysical model but I think they've ignored the more obvious data," said Davies said. Seismologists have widely, but not unanimously, sided with his explanation. Some note that much larger earthquakes had previously occurred closer to Sidoarjo yet not caused any mud volcano. At its peak, Lusi disgorged 180,000 cubic metres of mud a day. The rate has now fallen to between 15,000 and 20,000 cubic m per day, according to the government's Sidoarjo Mudflow Mitigation Agency. This is roughly equivalent to between six and eight Olympic-sized swimming pools of slime per day. Amein Widodo, a geologist from the Sepuluh Nopember Institute of Technology in nearby Surabaya city, said it was impossible to predict how long the volcano would keep erupting. "The amount of mud has reduced a lot, but having seen other cases in Java, it's possible it could erupt for more than 100 years," said Widodo.
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141. whitewabit
5:08 PM GMT on July 12, 2013
Did you see this article from the BBC ?? Distant quakes 'can trigger waste water site temblors'
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140. Skyepony (Mod)
4:34 PM GMT on July 12, 2013
Thanks to OrangeRoses for this link about the very large Salt Fork Fish Kill in OK. It's a recent fish kill that is very similiar to the one two years ago. Though they are waiting on final tests, it is looking more & more like rain & such rinsing the fracking waste in.
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139. Skyepony (Mod)
2:46 PM GMT on June 24, 2013
Influence of Grassroots Anti-Fracking Movement Spreads Like Wildfire

The strength of the resistance manifested itself again June 17 when more than 3,000 people of all ages and backgrounds from across New York gathered in Albany to urge Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the legislature to end the threat of fracking and promote a clean energy agenda. Robert Boyle, a long-time environmental activist and founder of Riverkeeper, remarked last year that he has never seen an environmental movement “spread with such wildfire” as the anti-fracking movement.

“It took me 13 or 14 years to get the first Riverkeeper going. Fracking isn’t like that. It’s like lighting a train of powder,” he told journalist Ellen Cantarow.
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138. Skyepony (Mod)
2:43 PM GMT on June 24, 2013
Are Fracking Wastewater Wells Poisoning the Ground beneath Our Feet?

But in interviews, several key experts acknowledged that the idea that injection is safe rests on science that has not kept pace with reality, and on oversight that doesn't always work.

"In 10 to 100 years we are going to find out that most of our groundwater is polluted," said Mario Salazar, an engineer who worked for 25 years as a technical expert with the EPA's underground injection program in Washington. "A lot of people are going to get sick, and a lot of people may die."
..many more experts weigh in in that article..
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137. Skyepony (Mod)
3:32 AM GMT on June 06, 2013
Never heard of 1980 oil exploration and salt mining most likely crossed in a bad way with unbelievable results..

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2:59 PM GMT on June 02, 2013
Wunder Bump
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135. BaltimoreBrian
8:18 PM GMT on May 31, 2013
Bloomberg Sustainability Page

A comprehensive news source on energy and environmental articles.
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134. indianrivguy
4:33 PM GMT on May 31, 2013
I get to meet Bobby Kennedy next week..

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133. indianrivguy
4:18 PM GMT on May 31, 2013
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132. indianrivguy
11:27 AM GMT on May 31, 2013
Colonel.. where did your avatar go?

photo credit Mark Renz

Global Warming Threatens Polar Gators

By Lola Trackinberg, Glacial Times
Scientists are alarmed that global warming may threaten the remaining 2,000 alligators that congregate on ice packs in the summer Arctic seas. The toothy reptiles depend on tasty penguins and frozen marshmallows from tourists. But as Global Warming politics melt the ice, penguins and gators are abandoning their arctic habitats.

Asked to comment, President Obama said, “It's a mixed up, jumbled up, shook up world, I say Lola.”
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129. greentortuloni
1:55 PM GMT on May 29, 2013
Quoting Skyepony:
I know I keep wrecking this blog with haten on Monsanto..but the horror!

They are just figuring out how it's wrecking our gut microbes & causing tumors among other problems & now the EPA has gone & raised the allowable limits in our food!

No you don't. You do concise focused articles that deserve to be read. Keep spreading the word.
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128. Skyepony (Mod)
12:48 PM GMT on May 29, 2013
I know I keep wrecking this blog with haten on Monsanto..but the horror!

They are just figuring out how it's wrecking our gut microbes & causing tumors among other problems & now the EPA has gone & raised the allowable limits in our food!
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127. Skyepony (Mod)
4:01 AM GMT on May 28, 2013
CA has a bill in the works to slow fracking till they study further. Not only is water an issue there but the strong suspected link with earthquakes. The newer type of fracking could release gas from the 1,750-square-mile geological formation known as the Monterey Shale, which extends roughly from Modesto to Bakersfield. Even though the Monterey Shale is known to be the nation's largest source of recoverable oil, the 15 billion barrels it contains only satisfies the nation's energy wants for three years. Here's an article on it.
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126. greentortuloni
10:33 AM GMT on May 27, 2013
Two links:

The Non-GMO Project. Sort of self explanitory.

Article in the NY Times about trying to use non-GMO food sources.
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125. Skyepony (Mod)
2:36 AM GMT on May 27, 2013
I stopped by the Monsanto March here in Melbourne. The turn out was impressive..

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124. JohnLonergan
1:54 PM GMT on May 26, 2013
In The Guardian this AM,a nice response by the people, we need more of this.

Millions march against GM crops
Organisers celebrate huge global turnout and say they will continue until Monsanto and other GM manufacturers listen

Organisers say that two million people marched in protest against seed giant Monsanto in hundreds of rallies across the US and in more than 50 other countries on Saturday.

"March Against Monsanto" protesters say they wanted to call attention to the dangers posed by genetically modified food and the food giants that produce it. Founder and organiser Tami Canal said protests were held in 436 cities across 52 countries.

Genetically modified plants are grown from seeds that are engineered to resist insecticides and herbicides, add nutritional benefits, or otherwise improve crop yields and increase the global food supply. Most corn, soybean and cotton crops grown in the United States today have been genetically modified. But some say genetically modified organisms can lead to serious health conditions and harm the environment.

The use of GMOs has been a growing issue of contention in recent years, with health advocates pushing for mandatory labelling of genetically modified products even though the federal government and many scientists say the technology is safe.

The "March Against Monsanto" movement began just a few months ago, when Canal created a Facebook page on 28 February calling for a rally against the company's practices. "If I had gotten 3,000 people to join me, I would have considered that a success," she said Saturday. Instead, she said, two million responded to her message.
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123. vis0
12:20 PM GMT on May 24, 2013
The best form of energy and most efficient is the REAL solar power, WIND.
¿How can it be made/used to power EVENTUALLY 60% of the needs for the world's
power grids?

try creating what i call an ml-d (it'son my blog)

Will no longer leave clues on other member's  blogs (getting complaints, even though
my posts are on a new science). Only will post on my blog as to not to waste space
since only a few respond and most from people whom know me from sites i'd post on
many years ago.


 One day someone else will discover what i did 30-+ yrs ago and create wind streams
 (what i call man made/man harnessed streams of air, done so by using sound, 90 degree
 centered & ungrounded microwave  tech, and  devices like what i call an ml-d). These
 wind streams will be harnessed to flow over  wind turbines (modern windmills) for short
 period of times per day.  For example i state just 8  wind turbines with 2 floors built around
 them encasing the ml-d, on top of  8 NYC skyscrapers  (4 in Man., 1 in The Bronx (where my
 heart resides), 1 in Queens, 2 in Brklyn, 1 in S.I.. They can fill the needs of 60% of NYC
 power grid needs.
 Its obvious to me that those in oil or pollutant generating power generating
 energy companies (NOT that they're bad people, just don't really want to discover something
 really new 'cause they worry they'll lose money/jobs, don't care for real new ideas, even if
 years ago i drew up a plan (100+pgs to an oil company) so no one loses their jobs as they
 are retrained to manage/work in wind turbine
 And those that say they want new ideas are like cancer companies whom say they look
 for a cure, but really stall so more funds can be raised as long as baby steps are taken in
 curing no one complains. (worked in major Hospital, saw records its a fact)
  i mention the latter as  i read constantly here on WXU how  "global warming" is so bad
  (i agree, but to me its "Global Climates Schizo") the description via the title will  help when Earth
  goes through cooler phases and non believers will say where is the warming,
 When what nature does to balance unnatural pollutants is to seem to go haywire as some man made
 pollutants hold in warmth, others don't allow sun's warm to penetrate and natures has to use
 the light/resonance biorhythms (if i may call it that) of the Universe, Galactic cluster outputs,Galaxies output,
 solar system outputs bathing this area of the universe (solar system) to balance Earth's "biorhythm".
 So, does nature  feed the cold & starve the fever or does the animal with the conscience (Humans)
 try testing new  theories as was done during the discoveries of the greatest  inventions where
 the weirdest ideas where tested many fail but once in a while man comes across a breakthrough,
 so nature can have some of the stress we placed on her relieved by using truly clean energy.
 So study how to attract the jet stream by using what is the opposing energy of the planet's mantel
 (that chemical footprint: silicon-like). Study its static and how it creates breezes then figure out a
 math i nicknamed  "invision" whose answers /results are in 3, as its answers explain the ancient example which is the
 Jewish symbol for a sacred light which is used in Star Trek (Spock's gesture)  its the complimentry
 puzzle to the hand gesture used to show the flow of current.
 Why my last comment as to my discoveries in clue form on another member's blog.
  i'm beginning to get eMail (persnl eMail) as i  received when i would post on ABC7's weather board
  (2003-2005) & members began to post silly messages or insult me, so moderator
  Bevans on ABC7 asked me to leave even though all i was posting  was on weather and my
  discoveries.  i left as not to become a distraction or sideshow.
NOTHING against WXU, keep up the open board & luv that retired teacher(s) blog,
 They use to call me LLoyd Lindsey Young 'cause  they posted i was as crazy as he. i consider
 that a compliment,peace
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122. greentortuloni
11:30 AM GMT on May 24, 2013

As opposed to forced labels, why can't foods that are GMO free get a certified GMO free label?

I realize it isn't the same thing but wouldn't it have a similar if lesser effect?
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121. Skyepony (Mod)
5:59 AM GMT on May 24, 2013
Saturday 2pm is March against Monsanto's a world wide event..

Why do we march?

- Research studies have shown that Monsanto%u2019s genetically-modified foods can lead to serious health conditions such as the development of cancer tumors, infertility and birth defects.
- In the United States, the FDA, the agency tasked with ensuring food safety for the population, is steered by ex-Monsanto executives, and we feel that%u2019s a questionable conflict of interests and explains the lack of government-lead research on the long-term effects of GMO products.
- Recently, the U.S. Congress and president collectively passed the nicknamed %u201CMonsanto Protection Act%u201D that, among other things, bans courts from halting the sale of Monsanto%u2019s genetically-modified seeds.
- For too long, Monsanto has been the benefactor of corporate subsidies and political favoritism. Organic and small farmers suffer losses while Monsanto continues to forge its monopoly over the world%u2019s food supply, including exclusive patenting rights over seeds and genetic makeup.
- Monsanto%u2019s GMO seeds are harmful to the environment; for example, scientists have indicated they have caused colony collapse among the world%u2019s bee population.

What are solutions we advocate?

- Voting with your dollar by buying organic and boycotting Monsanto-owned companies that use GMOs in their products.
- Labeling of GMOs so that consumers can make those informed decisions easier.
- Repealing relevant provisions of the US%u2019s %u201CMonsanto Protection Act.%u201D
- Calling for further scientific research on the health effects of GMOs.
- Holding Monsanto executives and Monsanto-supporting politicians accountable through direct communication, grassroots journalism, social media, etc.
- Continuing to inform the public about Monsanto%u2019s secrets.
- Taking to the streets to show the world and Monsanto that we won%u2019t take these injustices quietly.

We will not stand for cronyism. We will not stand for poison.
That%u2019s why we March Against Monsanto.

So far this is an excellent documentary released yesterday. Seeds of Death: Unveiling The Lies of GMO's - Full Movie

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117. Skyepony (Mod)
6:51 PM GMT on May 22, 2013
"Gasland 2" Grassroots Premiere in Normal, Illinois Highlights Industry PSYOPS and Ongoing Fracking Fights
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116. Skyepony (Mod)
6:48 PM GMT on May 22, 2013
A spoof on reality & Apocalypse Now..

At the “Media & Stakeholder Relations: Hydraulic Fracturing Initiative 2011” conference [in Nov. 2011] in Houston, Matt Pitzarella, Director of Corporate Communications and Public Affairs at Range Resources, revealed in his presentation that Range has hired Army and Marine veterans with combat experience in psychological warfare to influence communities in which Range drills for gas.

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115. Skyepony (Mod)
6:39 PM GMT on May 22, 2013
Not exactly fracing..but the Native Indian Reservations keep coming up. On the fracking issue I'm not sure how much choice they have.

The KeystoneXL line issue is festering...

Elders and chiefs of at least 10 sovereign nations walked out of a meeting with U.S. State Department officials in Rapid City, South Dakota, on Thursday May 16 in which the government was attempting to engage in tribal consultation over the Keystone XL pipeline.

Deeming the meeting “invalid,” leaders of the Great Plains Tribal Chairmen's Association—attendees included the Southern Ponca of Oklahoma, Pawnee Nation, Nez Perce Nation, Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate, Ihanktonwan Dakota Yankton Sioux, Rosebud Sioux Tribe, Oglala Sioux Tribe, Standing Rock Tribe, Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and Crow Creek Sioux Tribe—said they would meet only with President Barack Obama to discuss the pipeline.

“On this historic day of May 16, 2013, ten sovereign Indigenous nations maintain that the proposed TransCanada/Keystone XL pipeline does not serve the national interest and in fact would be detrimental not only to the collected sovereigns but all future generations on planet earth. This morning the following sovereigns informed the Department of State Tribal Consultation effort at the Hilton Garden Inn in Rapid City, SD, that the gathering was not recognized as a valid consultation on a ‘nation to nation’ level,” they said.

“Eventually all remaining tribal representatives and Tribal Historic Preservation Officers left the meeting at the direct urging of the grassroots organization Owe Aku,” the chiefs said in their statement. “Owe Aku, Moccasins on the Ground, and Protect the Sacred are preparing communities to resist the Keystone XL pipeline through Keystone Blockade Training.”

Read more at..
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114. indianrivguy
11:45 AM GMT on May 22, 2013
Good morning all!

This is interesting at the least. Having read about the methane in the water, I know that the chemical composition is not the same for methane coming from different stratum. This identifier is ignored or overlooked in the authors comments.. or maybe I am giving to much value to what I read.. like I said, interesting.

What the frack do we know? Not much, it turns out
By Richard Schiffman

This is one of the best articles I have read so far about fracking. Good description of the process, and worthy coverage of the problems and issues.. as "I" see them.

Why Not Frack?
March 8, 2012
Bill McKibben

This image is from the above link, I post it to point out that the numbers used for the water necessary are woefully understated. "More than a million gallons" although true, is a serious understatement. I refer you back to post 112 and the 21 million gallon story.

There is a rebuttle letter to the above article written by John Deutch, but Bill McKibben addresses it.

Why Frack?
April 26, 2012
John Deutch, reply by Bill McKibben

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112. indianrivguy
8:16 PM GMT on May 20, 2013
Quoting greentortuloni:
(Note: I am posting here because I refuse to post on Dr Rood's site anymore. It's like trying to talk about love in front of Beavis and Butthead. Apologies to some really great posters there.)

Dr. Rood seems to more concerned with post count rather than the quality of his blog so I quit posting there too. I wrote him a couple of times but he showed no interest, so I'll try here.

On the drought and fracking. They ARE related insofar as the demand has outstripped the supply, and the frackers can outbid agriculture.. and everyone else too. Colorado, California, and Texas are all having these battles, with a lot more on the horizon.

Here are some links that cover this some;

This is a report for investors and cover the "need" as well as some alternatives that did not look very feasible to me given the copious volumes needed to frack.

Hydraulic Fracturing Faces Growing Competition for Water Supplies in Water-Stressed Regions
May 2, 2013

This is a link for the map in the above article that is interactive.

Hydraulic Fracturing & Water Stress

This article chronicles the massive water it takes to frack.. and all this water is lost, or polluted beyond use.. The industry allows the number 6 million gallons per well to make the rounds and appease us, the truth can be, and is quite different.

Michigan's 21 Million Gallon Frack Job: A National Record?
February 5, 2013

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111. theshepherd
11:03 AM GMT on May 20, 2013
Quoting Skyepony:

This is the most one sided version I have seen on this issue. It's the same as the thing yesterday comment #93. This did get some praise from the oil industry but they are still upset that federal govt wants any regulations on federal land fracking. Environmentalist were quite displeased.

I plan to do a separate post on the public comment once I really look into the open pit verses a holding tank for the water & chemicals that flow back to the surface during fracking. History shows the open pits can leak poisons & such into the ground water.

SafeFraker~ You seem to know about this stuff. What's the pros & cons to open pits & tanks?

There is alot of open pits in that Native American video I posted... Interesting that ruling was made along with a ruling for the Indian reservations concerning fracking that gets a mention in about all the articles on that ruling but not this version.

Having spent 40 years in construction and NPDES Certified, I can answer that question for you, ponygal.

Think about it.

Some things are self evident.

Your welcome.

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110. greentortuloni
10:22 AM GMT on May 20, 2013
A NY Times article on the midwest drought. Thought it related to fracking somewhat, though if you look at the two maps below, the drought and the area of fracking that needs ground water curiously are not so overlapping.

Since the graphic didn't come through on the image below, the colored bars are not linear. They range from roughly negative 150 on the left (brownish side) to positive 50 on the right (bluish side).

(Note: I am posting here because I refuse to post on Dr Rood's site anymore. It's like trying to talk about love in front of Beavis and Butthead. Apologies to some really great posters there.)
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